Women’s March Co-President Tamika D. Mallory goes head to head with NRA spokesman Dana Loesch on CNN. Mallory first asks Loesch a question we’ve all wanted the answer to; who is the “they” in the controversial new NRA ad? The pair also discussed the shooting of Philando Castile.

If you haven’t seen the new NRA ad mentioned above, check it out below. It’s truly horrifying.

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